Dr. Paul Alexander: Why CDC Pushed Lockdowns vs. Herd Immunity with Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew


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Epidemiologist Dr. Paul E. Alexander was a scientific advisor to the HHS in the earliest days of the COVID-19 pandemic. He spoke widely against lockdowns and mask mandates, especially for children, and has urged health officials to adopt a strategy for herd immunity over vaccination.

Dr. Paul E. Alexander holds a PhD and has graduate-level training and experience in epidemiology, evidence-based medicine, and research methodology. Dr. Alexander is a former Assistant Professor at McMaster University in evidence-based medicine and research methods; former COVID Pandemic evidence-synthesis consultant advisor to WHO Geneva-PAHO Washington, DC (2020), and former senior advisor to COVID Pandemic policy in Health and Human Services. Follow Dr. Alexander at


Dr. Drew: UK didn’t change guidance on COVID vaccines and pregnancies – Read on

EDITOR’S NOTE: Parts of this AP fact-check appear to conflict with sections of the report below. Though the report was published in December 2020, its most recent update (as of this episode) was August 16, 2022.   

Dr. Victory: Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech (Updated 16 August 2022) – Read on GOV.UK

From section “Toxicity Conclusions”

“The absence of reproductive toxicity data is a reflection of the speed of development to first identify and select COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 for clinical testing and its rapid development to meet the ongoing urgent health need. In principle, a decision on licensing a vaccine could be taken in these circumstances without data from reproductive toxicity studies animals, but there are studies ongoing and these will be provided when available. In the context of supply under Regulation 174, it is considered that sufficient reassurance of safe use of the vaccine in pregnant women cannot be provided at the present time: however, use in women of childbearing potential could be supported provided healthcare professionals are advised to rule out known or suspected pregnancy prior to vaccination. Women who are breastfeeding should also not be vaccinated. These judgements reflect the absence of data at the present time and do not reflect a specific finding of concern. Adequate advice with regard to women of childbearing potential, pregnant women and breastfeeding women has been provided in both the Information for UK Healthcare Professionals and the Information for UK recipients.” (Emphasis added in bold

Summary of Yellow Card reporting – Safety of COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy (Updated 1 September 2022) – read at

“The current advice of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) is that the COVID-19 vaccines should be offered to those who are pregnant as a clinical risk group in the COVID-19 vaccination programme. The COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech and COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna are currently the preferred vaccines for use during pregnancy and can be given at any stage in pregnancy.”

Dr. Victory: Do boosters save people from getting very sick with Covid? New data from Britain say the opposite. – Read on

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Dr. Paul Alexander: Why CDC Pushed Lockdowns vs. Herd Immunity with Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew

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