On Internal Call, FDA Directors Admit Not Doing “Statistical Testing on Adverse Events” of mRNA, As Pediatrician Reports 7-Year-Old’s Cardiac Arrest & Death Days After Pfizer Vaccination

In an internal call, FDA directors heard physicians' concerns about mRNA & how VAERS reports of adverse reactions were falling through the cracks – including a 7-year-old's death after Pfizer's vaccine.

In a recorded call, FDA directors heard physicians’ concerns about the safety of mRNA and how VAERS reports of side effects and adverse reactions were falling through the cracks – including the cardiac arrest and sudden death of a 7-year-old child days after receiving Pfizer’s vaccine.

“This was a top level meeting of directors,” says Dr. Joseph Fraiman, who taped the call. “This entire meeting terrified my entire work group.”


The call – legally recorded by Dr. Fraiman in March 2022 – included FDA Director Dr. Peter Marks, Dr. Peter Doshi, Dr. Celia Witten, Dr. Sarah Walinsky, Dr. Lorrie McNeill, and many other medical authorities and experts.

“What they’re saying here is they’re not doing statistical testing on adverse events. This is really insane to me,” comments Dr. Fraiman. “You don’t know exactly which one of these adverse events is causing it but you know there’s a problem if the vaccine group has a higher rate of them.”

It gets worse. Dr. Patrick Whelan, a pediatric specialist at UCLA, tells the FDA directors that he filed a VAERS report about a seven-year-old patient who “had a cardiac arrest following his first Pfizer vaccination” but says he “didn’t receive any follow up about it.”

“The patient died about 8 days later,” says Dr. Whelan. “I would think that if the death of a seven-year-old following the vaccine is not meriting a follow up, either the system is totally overwhelmed or there’s something wrong with the reporting system.”

Dr. Fraiman says the FDA’s responses only raise further concerns about the entire drug approval process.

“The same people who are approving drugs are responsible for checking if that was a good idea. That is a serious conflict of interest that we have built in to our system,” explains Dr. Fraiman. “We allow these pharmaceutical companies to do their own trials… When I buy a Samsung TV, I don’t read Samsung’s reviews of the TV.”

“Go and look through all of the drugs and see how they were approved,” he continues. “I can assure you it will not bring you confidence for many of them, especially anything of the last 20 years.”

People identified on this call include:

  • Dr. Peter W. Marks (FDA, Director)
  • Dr. Celia M. Witten (FDA, Deputy Director)
  • Dr. Peter Doshi (Senior Editor of BMJ)
  • Dr. Patrick Whelan (Pediatric Specialist at UCLA)
  • Dr. Steve Anderson (Director for the Office of Statistics and Pharmacovigilance)
  • Dr. John Scott (Director of the Division of Biostatistics in the Office of Pharmacovigilance)
  • Dr. Sarah Walinsky (FDA, Center for Biologics)
  • Dr. Lorrie McNeill (Director of the Office of Communication, Outreach and Development)
  • Dr. Joseph Fraiman

This call was legally recorded by Dr. Joseph Fraiman on March 28, 2022. Dr. Fraiman played part of this call on the 9/6/23 episode of Ask Dr. Drew with Dr. Kelly Victory and Dr. Jessica Rose. In this clip, the audio has been digitally enhanced for clarity but no other edits or changes have been made.

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On Internal Call, FDA Directors Admit Not Doing “Statistical Testing on Adverse Events” of mRNA, As Pediatrician Reports 7-Year-Old’s Cardiac Arrest & Death Days After Pfizer Vaccination


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